Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to stay, says Thurrock's UKIP candidate

Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to stay, says Thurrock's UKIP candidate

Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to stay, says Thurrock's UKIP candidate

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Maldon and Burnham Standard: Matt Abbott by , Chief Reporter

TIM Aker, UKIP's Thurrock MP candidate for the next general election, believes illegal immigrants should not be given asylum as this sends out a "soft touch message".

The UKIP candidates comments come as 35 Afghani Sikh's were discovered in a container passing through the Port of Tilbury ten days ago.

One, Meet Singh Kapoor, 40, died. The 15 families had been couped up in the container - that arrived at the port from the Port of Zeebrugge, Belgium - for hours after fleeing religious persecution in their native Afghanistan.

All were treated for dehydration and hypothermia but have since been discharged from the South Essex region's hospitals.

But Mr Aker, who is also one of the Eastern region's UKIP MEPs, doesn't think the families should be allowed to stay, saying any immigrants coming to Britain illegally should be refused asylum and returned to the "first safe country". He added that this "firm but fair" message would also prevent further tragedies.

He said: "Thousands and thousands of migrants try and come to Britain in the legal and proper manner. We must not send a soft-touch message to the rest of the world that those who come here illegally will be allowed to stay.
 
"Doing so simply encourages more people to risk their lives resulting in fatalities as we have recently seen and encourages people traffickers. 

"People in Thurrock and right across the country are sick and tired of illegal immigrants coming here and being allowed to stay.
 
"I'm absolutely certain that the best way to stop further such tragedies is to send a firm but fair message: that Britain is a place only those who play by the rules are welcome to come to, in a controlled and safe way. Illegal immigrants who attempt to smuggle themselves into our country should be returned to the first safe country."

 

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1:50pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Paul_Grays says...

Take a leaf from Autralia,,,they know the world is watching so take a stance and it send a message to anyone else thinking of trying. We all remember the boat in their waters and how that was dealt with.
Take a leaf from Autralia,,,they know the world is watching so take a stance and it send a message to anyone else thinking of trying. We all remember the boat in their waters and how that was dealt with. Paul_Grays
  • Score: 84

1:53pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Sugarman says...

Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here?
Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here? Sugarman
  • Score: 93

3:10pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Kirk D says...

Well said Tim Aker, asylum cases must enter the country legally & apply through the usual channels. If immigration was strictly controlled on a points basis we would be in a position to look more favourably on real, deserving cases of asylum. As it is, there is much less sympathy these days simply because of the sheer influx of immigrants, most of whom have neither the skills we need or the money to start a business. 'Were full' is a phrase that I constantly read or hear................
Primary Schools, Hospitals, Doctors Surgeries & even the roads are testament to that phrases validity!
Well said Tim Aker, asylum cases must enter the country legally & apply through the usual channels. If immigration was strictly controlled on a points basis we would be in a position to look more favourably on real, deserving cases of asylum. As it is, there is much less sympathy these days simply because of the sheer influx of immigrants, most of whom have neither the skills we need or the money to start a business. 'Were full' is a phrase that I constantly read or hear................ Primary Schools, Hospitals, Doctors Surgeries & even the roads are testament to that phrases validity! Kirk D
  • Score: 74

3:14pm Wed 27 Aug 14

poortaxpayer says...

Sugarman wrote:
Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here?
Does Afghanistan or the Punjab offer Social or Council Housing, a free education system, a free National Health System, Benefit payments even if you have never paid into the system, free Doctors, Dentists and Opticians, a legal system and human rights legislation that means you claim for asylum could take a decade to sort out being delayed by multiple appeals before the authorities give up and let you stay etc etc etc...

The nearest safest place for these Afghan Sikhs to go would have been to India where the largest concentration of their co-religionists reside.
[quote][p][bold]Sugarman[/bold] wrote: Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here?[/p][/quote]Does Afghanistan or the Punjab offer Social or Council Housing, a free education system, a free National Health System, Benefit payments even if you have never paid into the system, free Doctors, Dentists and Opticians, a legal system and human rights legislation that means you claim for asylum could take a decade to sort out being delayed by multiple appeals before the authorities give up and let you stay etc etc etc... The nearest safest place for these Afghan Sikhs to go would have been to India where the largest concentration of their co-religionists reside. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 75

3:53pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Hawthorne says...

I'm sure we all knew where you stood on this issue Tim. It's the other policies that your party need to give a bit more clarity on. Watching with interest...
I'm sure we all knew where you stood on this issue Tim. It's the other policies that your party need to give a bit more clarity on. Watching with interest... Hawthorne
  • Score: -33

4:17pm Wed 27 Aug 14

skinthegoat says...

It is time to retrieve our country! One only has to look at Rotherham to see that immigrants (legal or otherwise) are taking the p*ss out of us, our laws, and our culture.
If you want more of the same, vote liblabcon, three cheeks of the same arse.
We are at the Last Chance Saloon come May 2015.
It is time to retrieve our country! One only has to look at Rotherham to see that immigrants (legal or otherwise) are taking the p*ss out of us, our laws, and our culture. If you want more of the same, vote liblabcon, three cheeks of the same arse. We are at the Last Chance Saloon come May 2015. skinthegoat
  • Score: 100

6:07pm Wed 27 Aug 14

jackieboy says...

Mr Aker, as a previous person stated we all know your views on immigrants! This is just a cheap shot at publicity from you.
I also would like to hear what else you have to say about employment, housing, education? What have you achieved since winning your seat in the European parliament? Have you even attended to actually earn your salary and over the top expenses?
Mr Aker, as a previous person stated we all know your views on immigrants! This is just a cheap shot at publicity from you. I also would like to hear what else you have to say about employment, housing, education? What have you achieved since winning your seat in the European parliament? Have you even attended to actually earn your salary and over the top expenses? jackieboy
  • Score: -96

8:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Max Stu says...

Whilst these illegal immigrants have suffered in the way they ended up in our country lets not forget that the adults, yes adults made the choice to enter into our country in this way. As an adult of sound mind, regardless of creed or nationality, surely they knew the risks.

I for one would never have put my family through this, I would have sought safety without question but never via a ships container.

As a british citizen born and bred, I am, and not ashamed to say, very protective over what my Grandfather went to war for, Great Britain. The truth is, sadly, that the very thing that makes Britain Great is being lost by us being what some class as 'politcally correct'.
We as a nation we have spent too many years falling fowl to this, we need to take a stance to protect our heritage as sadly without doubt we will lose forever our 'Great Britain'
There are many true British citizens who daily endure hardships, many who have worked all there lives and paid into our system. Surely they should be our priority not a minoroty when it come to the NHS, social care The Education system and benefits system.

This is purely my opinion, and I use this opinion as my freedom of speach as means to try to protect our Country and our Families future.
Whilst these illegal immigrants have suffered in the way they ended up in our country lets not forget that the adults, yes adults made the choice to enter into our country in this way. As an adult of sound mind, regardless of creed or nationality, surely they knew the risks. I for one would never have put my family through this, I would have sought safety without question but never via a ships container. As a british citizen born and bred, I am, and not ashamed to say, very protective over what my Grandfather went to war for, Great Britain. The truth is, sadly, that the very thing that makes Britain Great is being lost by us being what some class as 'politcally correct'. We as a nation we have spent too many years falling fowl to this, we need to take a stance to protect our heritage as sadly without doubt we will lose forever our 'Great Britain' There are many true British citizens who daily endure hardships, many who have worked all there lives and paid into our system. Surely they should be our priority not a minoroty when it come to the NHS, social care The Education system and benefits system. This is purely my opinion, and I use this opinion as my freedom of speach as means to try to protect our Country and our Families future. Max Stu
  • Score: 55

11:01am Thu 28 Aug 14

Sugarman says...

poortaxpayer wrote:
Sugarman wrote:
Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here?
Does Afghanistan or the Punjab offer Social or Council Housing, a free education system, a free National Health System, Benefit payments even if you have never paid into the system, free Doctors, Dentists and Opticians, a legal system and human rights legislation that means you claim for asylum could take a decade to sort out being delayed by multiple appeals before the authorities give up and let you stay etc etc etc...

The nearest safest place for these Afghan Sikhs to go would have been to India where the largest concentration of their co-religionists reside.
That's precisely what I meant when I said "it begs the question Why here!" Yes India or Punjab where there is a big Sikh population. Personally, I'm sick of the all the wet liberal do gooders who want everyone and his mate living here. If they were genuine asylum seekers and not economic asylum seekers it's a different story. I read the Government refused Syrian refugees - so why are they allowing these people? One of the reasons the Sikhs said they were persecuted was someone pulled their turban off! Well sorry but that's not persecution that's bullying.
[quote][p][bold]poortaxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sugarman[/bold] wrote: Whilst I have sympathy for the asylum seekers, they did cross many safe countries before they arrived here. I have to agree that giving them asylum does send out the wrong message that we will welcome all and sundry and it also encourages the traffickers to load more and more into containers and unseaworthy boats whilst promising them houses and benefits in this country. We should shut the door on all immigration for several years, we are full and the NHS will not be able to accommodate them. Those Sikh asylum seekers could have relocated from Afghanistan to the Punjab, without being trafficked so it begs the question why here?[/p][/quote]Does Afghanistan or the Punjab offer Social or Council Housing, a free education system, a free National Health System, Benefit payments even if you have never paid into the system, free Doctors, Dentists and Opticians, a legal system and human rights legislation that means you claim for asylum could take a decade to sort out being delayed by multiple appeals before the authorities give up and let you stay etc etc etc... The nearest safest place for these Afghan Sikhs to go would have been to India where the largest concentration of their co-religionists reside.[/p][/quote]That's precisely what I meant when I said "it begs the question Why here!" Yes India or Punjab where there is a big Sikh population. Personally, I'm sick of the all the wet liberal do gooders who want everyone and his mate living here. If they were genuine asylum seekers and not economic asylum seekers it's a different story. I read the Government refused Syrian refugees - so why are they allowing these people? One of the reasons the Sikhs said they were persecuted was someone pulled their turban off! Well sorry but that's not persecution that's bullying. Sugarman
  • Score: 15

11:18am Thu 28 Aug 14

OckendonPaul says...

Unfortunately our opinions count for nothing. We all know they'll stay, just as the ones who hijacked a plane to get here a few years ago have stayed, and I'll bet living in large london houses that those of us who are actually from this country can only dream about.
There's half a million a year coming in and, thanks to 'positive action', are being fast-tracked to the top in politics and business.
A tipping point is fast approaching where our votes will count for nothing, not just our opinions...
Unfortunately our opinions count for nothing. We all know they'll stay, just as the ones who hijacked a plane to get here a few years ago have stayed, and I'll bet living in large london houses that those of us who are actually from this country can only dream about. There's half a million a year coming in and, thanks to 'positive action', are being fast-tracked to the top in politics and business. A tipping point is fast approaching where our votes will count for nothing, not just our opinions... OckendonPaul
  • Score: 25

2:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Drunken Master says...

Just been reading about the Jamaican criminal that was being deported and was with the police at the airport and then announced he was gay so the police let him go back to the station where he claimed asylum as he would be prosecuted in his own Country. His own family know he is not gay and even if he was gay it is not our problem. He is laughing his heterosexual head off at us and probably still out there committing crime.
Just been reading about the Jamaican criminal that was being deported and was with the police at the airport and then announced he was gay so the police let him go back to the station where he claimed asylum as he would be prosecuted in his own Country. His own family know he is not gay and even if he was gay it is not our problem. He is laughing his heterosexual head off at us and probably still out there committing crime. Drunken Master
  • Score: 21

9:01pm Thu 28 Aug 14

ardale lad says...

Hawthorne wrote:
I'm sure we all knew where you stood on this issue Tim. It's the other policies that your party need to give a bit more clarity on. Watching with interest...
Well maybe its about time some others actually grew a pair and came forward rather than knocking the majority of people hitting their thumbs up button on this subject.
[quote][p][bold]Hawthorne[/bold] wrote: I'm sure we all knew where you stood on this issue Tim. It's the other policies that your party need to give a bit more clarity on. Watching with interest...[/p][/quote]Well maybe its about time some others actually grew a pair and came forward rather than knocking the majority of people hitting their thumbs up button on this subject. ardale lad
  • Score: 19

9:14pm Thu 28 Aug 14

ardale lad says...

Well done Douglas Carswell grown a pair already!!!!!!
Well done Douglas Carswell grown a pair already!!!!!! ardale lad
  • Score: 14

2:12am Mon 1 Sep 14

Thurrock For All says...

Why vote for UKIP when they do nothing. If they do not attend European Parliament should be thrown out.
Immigration comment cheap but not unexpected from BNP/NF follow ons.
Why vote for UKIP when they do nothing. If they do not attend European Parliament should be thrown out. Immigration comment cheap but not unexpected from BNP/NF follow ons. Thurrock For All
  • Score: -31

4:26pm Mon 1 Sep 14

ebagumtrebor says...

Why vote UKIP? Because they are the only party that stand up for the ordinary people of this country in the face of an unprecedented wave of immigration that is have a hugely negative effect on this country.

I listened to the news programme's over the weekend talking about refugee movements and displaced people in Syria, Iraq and Sudan. They pale into insignificance when compared to the movement of people to this country. More people have moved here in the last ten years than did so during and after the second world war.

The leftist Britain haters need to get some perspective on what their party has inflicted on this country.
Why vote UKIP? Because they are the only party that stand up for the ordinary people of this country in the face of an unprecedented wave of immigration that is have a hugely negative effect on this country. I listened to the news programme's over the weekend talking about refugee movements and displaced people in Syria, Iraq and Sudan. They pale into insignificance when compared to the movement of people to this country. More people have moved here in the last ten years than did so during and after the second world war. The leftist Britain haters need to get some perspective on what their party has inflicted on this country. ebagumtrebor
  • Score: 14

5:28pm Mon 1 Sep 14

jackieboy says...

ebagumtrebor wrote:
Why vote UKIP? Because they are the only party that stand up for the ordinary people of this country in the face of an unprecedented wave of immigration that is have a hugely negative effect on this country.

I listened to the news programme's over the weekend talking about refugee movements and displaced people in Syria, Iraq and Sudan. They pale into insignificance when compared to the movement of people to this country. More people have moved here in the last ten years than did so during and after the second world war.

The leftist Britain haters need to get some perspective on what their party has inflicted on this country.
So Ukip stand for the normal people? If they were ever to have the power they would: ban trade unions, bring in a singlecrate of tax so that people on minimum wage pay the same rate as millionaires,stop maternity/paternity leave/pay, cut unemployment benefit. Now I know most Ukip supporters think anyone on benefits are scroungers but I can assure you that the majority of claimants are actually working but not being paid a fair wage. Oh yes Ukip also intend scrapping the minimum wage and would more than likely be supportive of zero hour contracts.
Remember Farage is just another ex fat cat banker from the same fold as Cameron and his cronies.
Be careful what you wish for people of Thurrock!
[quote][p][bold]ebagumtrebor[/bold] wrote: Why vote UKIP? Because they are the only party that stand up for the ordinary people of this country in the face of an unprecedented wave of immigration that is have a hugely negative effect on this country. I listened to the news programme's over the weekend talking about refugee movements and displaced people in Syria, Iraq and Sudan. They pale into insignificance when compared to the movement of people to this country. More people have moved here in the last ten years than did so during and after the second world war. The leftist Britain haters need to get some perspective on what their party has inflicted on this country.[/p][/quote]So Ukip stand for the normal people? If they were ever to have the power they would: ban trade unions, bring in a singlecrate of tax so that people on minimum wage pay the same rate as millionaires,stop maternity/paternity leave/pay, cut unemployment benefit. Now I know most Ukip supporters think anyone on benefits are scroungers but I can assure you that the majority of claimants are actually working but not being paid a fair wage. Oh yes Ukip also intend scrapping the minimum wage and would more than likely be supportive of zero hour contracts. Remember Farage is just another ex fat cat banker from the same fold as Cameron and his cronies. Be careful what you wish for people of Thurrock! jackieboy
  • Score: -18

9:42pm Mon 1 Sep 14

ebagumtrebor says...

jackieboy you need to ask yourself who has been and who was in charge when in work benefits were introduced? Who was and who is in charge when zero hours contracts were introduced? who was and who is in charge when the minimum wage became the norm. Do you want me to continue with the damage that the vindictive Labour party inflicted on the working class and the Tories were only too willing to continue. You are fool if you believe the working class are supported by the Labour party. I could name policy after policy that inflicted defeat on the working class introduced by the Labour party. Don't fall for the rhetoric. Look at what they have done. They are the Tories. You just don't see it.
jackieboy you need to ask yourself who has been and who was in charge when in work benefits were introduced? Who was and who is in charge when zero hours contracts were introduced? who was and who is in charge when the minimum wage became the norm. Do you want me to continue with the damage that the vindictive Labour party inflicted on the working class and the Tories were only too willing to continue. You are fool if you believe the working class are supported by the Labour party. I could name policy after policy that inflicted defeat on the working class introduced by the Labour party. Don't fall for the rhetoric. Look at what they have done. They are the Tories. You just don't see it. ebagumtrebor
  • Score: 12

10:21am Tue 2 Sep 14

Sugarman says...

Drunken Master wrote:
Just been reading about the Jamaican criminal that was being deported and was with the police at the airport and then announced he was gay so the police let him go back to the station where he claimed asylum as he would be prosecuted in his own Country. His own family know he is not gay and even if he was gay it is not our problem. He is laughing his heterosexual head off at us and probably still out there committing crime.
And now everyone will use the same excuse. He should have been made to go back to Jamaica no ifs or buts. I don't know what the answer is, the right to a family life and all the other pc get outs are just preposterous, they let a drug dealing Nigerian stay because he was entiltled to a family life! He had never even met his daughter and had absolutely no contact with her or didn't pay to her upkeep. We are the laughing stock of the world and we need to close the borders, make a concerted effort to stop illegals and deport anyone who breaks the law with no exceptions.
[quote][p][bold]Drunken Master[/bold] wrote: Just been reading about the Jamaican criminal that was being deported and was with the police at the airport and then announced he was gay so the police let him go back to the station where he claimed asylum as he would be prosecuted in his own Country. His own family know he is not gay and even if he was gay it is not our problem. He is laughing his heterosexual head off at us and probably still out there committing crime.[/p][/quote]And now everyone will use the same excuse. He should have been made to go back to Jamaica no ifs or buts. I don't know what the answer is, the right to a family life and all the other pc get outs are just preposterous, they let a drug dealing Nigerian stay because he was entiltled to a family life! He had never even met his daughter and had absolutely no contact with her or didn't pay to her upkeep. We are the laughing stock of the world and we need to close the borders, make a concerted effort to stop illegals and deport anyone who breaks the law with no exceptions. Sugarman
  • Score: 10

11:22pm Tue 2 Sep 14

7dogsnuts says...

enough is enough it's about time we had a political party which appealed to the local electorate and put right the immigration wrongs of previous governments and reclaim our country It will be interesting to see how long before ukIp take control of thurrock council
enough is enough it's about time we had a political party which appealed to the local electorate and put right the immigration wrongs of previous governments and reclaim our country It will be interesting to see how long before ukIp take control of thurrock council 7dogsnuts
  • Score: 15

1:17pm Sun 7 Sep 14

Dream Weaver says...

The Tory/LibDem Coalition is letting in over 1,500 immigrants each and every DAY.
The Tory/LibDem Coalition is letting in over 1,500 immigrants each and every DAY. Dream Weaver
  • Score: 1

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