McDonald's to open 24/7 creating scores of jobs (From Maldon and Burnham Standard)

get in there

That means the council will need more staff to clear the litter left behind.

This is what Colchester has always wanted. Some where where you can go out at 4.00 AM to get a meal.

I expect the wages will be just about minimum wage whcih no one can survive on.

what do you suggest cavillas pay them 20 quid an hour to flip burgers?

crazy comments wrote:
That means the council will need more staff to clear the litter left behind.

It appears McDonald's only clear up their rubbish on their premises. They and the Council forget about the rubbish lining the hedgerows along Cowdray Avenue.

Why is it everyone seems to jump on the retailers for rubbish. Once you have purchased your goods which includes packaging or wrapper and step foot off their premises, that packaging or wrapper does not belong to them its yours. If it is dispose of it by dropping it on the highway instead of putting it in the bin or taking it home its the fault of the lazy intoxicated gits that cannot be arsed not the retailers.

The old see dog wrote:
Why is it everyone seems to jump on the retailers for rubbish. Once you have purchased your goods which includes packaging or wrapper and step foot off their premises, that packaging or wrapper does not belong to them its yours. If it is dispose of it by dropping it on the highway instead of putting it in the bin or taking it home its the fault of the lazy intoxicated gits that cannot be arsed not the retailers.

Too right.

jut1972 wrote:
what do you suggest cavillas pay them 20 quid an hour to flip burgers?

Well said.

Personally, I´d rather eat somebody else´s vomit than tuck into a Big Mac, but there is clearly a demand for it, and it is creating jobs. They may be low wage jobs, but for somebody who doesn´t have a job, that is still better than nothing.

For the 20 people who do get a job here, they will welcome it. In the States, something like a quarter of the population has worked in Macdonalds at some stage. It can be a stepping-stone to something better, it´s not necessarily a career move. It makes me uneasy that we´ve become such a fast-food nation, guzzling junk and stretching our waistlines, but money comes from supplying what the people want.

eat somebody else´s vomit ????
He must be The Fly ! :-}}

The old see dog wrote:
eat somebody else´s vomit ????
He must be The Fly ! :-}}

It´s taken from Spinal Tap, when they´re talking about the death of a drummer: "He choked on vomit... somebody else´s vomit". Great film!

There is one point about the litter that seems to have been missed: McDs make a huge profit and the litter would not be there if they were not selling enormous amounts of food.
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Thus, a gesture of goodwill, not to mention a better face presented to the public, would be seen if McDs laid on a litter picking team once a week minimum. If it takes them too many hours for this goodwill gesture to be maintained, it only shows (a) how much fantastic profit McDs are raking in and (b) how lazy, dirty and careless of their environment are the locals.
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It's certainly not going to go far in promoting City of Culture status if the bypass is strewn with greasy paper and containers.
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Yes, nearby residents could also go out for a minute or so daily and, I suspect, this would cut down a lot on the mess, but the attitude these days is to leave any mess on the ground of "I didn't put it there!". No matter that it erodes the value of your property, you don't lift a finger to help because that mysterious "someone" "ought to do something...".

Yes I agree rhetoric, the nearby residents should clear up any mess made, it's only fair.

ShallowRemarks, there's no need to be silly or, as you would probably label it if you knew the word, "ironic".
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Most of those who care about the mess, or are damaged by it, are obviously not those who make it. These last are not going to return to pick it up, so it is up to those who are damaged by the litter in some way to act.
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Not fair? If you want life to be fair you are in for a big disappointment for the duration.
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As seen in another posting stream, it is agreed that the very foundation of the application to be a City of Culture is the pride of the residents in their environment, and a small input each week by rolling up sleeves and making sure that the environment is pleasant and fairly tidy.
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You obviously failed to read my para containing the suggestion that McD put on a litter picking team weekly as they have done in some other areas. Now that IS fair!
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I have done my share of litter picking today, have you?

I think my point was missed earlier. When someone purchases goods from a store, fast food outlet or supermarket it comes with a wrapper weather it be paper, tin or plastic. once you have paid for it it`s yours the goods and packaging and when you have unpacked the goods you recycle the packaging be it at home or in the bins provided, you cant expect the suppliers to go around the country picking up their packaging or for that matter residents. If that were to happen then the idiot litter droppers would increase a thousand fold or more because they know that someone else will clear up after them. It`s a bit like the few irresponsible dog owners, they feed little Fido then take him out for walkies they then let little Fido off the lead and off he goes to take a dump then runs back to master who makes out that he did not see and thinks to him self the dog food manufacturer made little Fido want a dump so they or the residents can clean it up because it`s not mine or little Fido's. Well that said I`m going to have some beans on toast now and throw the tin out into the road, it`s a Heinzs tin so they can come and pick it up, it`s not mine.

how wonderful,great news,like i'm in heaven man.

The old see dog wrote:
I think my point was missed earlier. When someone purchases goods from a store, fast food outlet or supermarket it comes with a wrapper weather it be paper, tin or plastic. once you have paid for it it`s yours the goods and packaging and when you have unpacked the goods you recycle the packaging be it at home or in the bins provided, you cant expect the suppliers to go around the country picking up their packaging or for that matter residents. If that were to happen then the idiot litter droppers would increase a thousand fold or more because they know that someone else will clear up after them. It`s a bit like the few irresponsible dog owners, they feed little Fido then take him out for walkies they then let little Fido off the lead and off he goes to take a dump then runs back to master who makes out that he did not see and thinks to him self the dog food manufacturer made little Fido want a dump so they or the residents can clean it up because it`s not mine or little Fido's. Well that said I`m going to have some beans on toast now and throw the tin out into the road, it`s a Heinzs tin so they can come and pick it up, it`s not mine.

Your point wasn't missed earlier and it was a very good point, just bloody boring and nobody wanted to know.

Litter is an issue all over this country. I used to think it was because there weren´t enough bins, but I´ve seen people drop litter right next to a bin. I´ve occasionally asked people to pick it up and get met with abuse. No idea why people just drop their rubbish, but they do. Not just youngsters, either.

I think their mentality is that somebody else will come and clear it up.

Old see dog is sort of right in a way, but fast food places such as Macdonalds do have to accept that their packaging is more likely to be dropped. It would be good PR for them to employ somebody who clears up around the area, but of course the last thing they want is bagloads of rubbish coming back to the store, so they also decide it is somebody else´s responsibility.

Don´t really know how to easily change this mindset. Perhaps one solution would be a deposit system, like there used to be on bottles. You pay 20p extra for the packaging, and that is refunded if you bring it back. Maybe the person buying the food will not bother over 20p, but somebody who needs the money might find it´s a way to earn a few quid.

There are theoretically fines for littering, but nobody seems to get fined apart from the occasional smoker or the famous one where somebody was fined for dropping a tenner. So if the stick approach is not working, maybe the carrot approach would give better results.

romantic wrote:
Litter is an issue all over this country. I used to think it was because there weren´t enough bins, but I´ve seen people drop litter right next to a bin. I´ve occasionally asked people to pick it up and get met with abuse. No idea why people just drop their rubbish, but they do. Not just youngsters, either.

I think their mentality is that somebody else will come and clear it up.

Old see dog is sort of right in a way, but fast food places such as Macdonalds do have to accept that their packaging is more likely to be dropped. It would be good PR for them to employ somebody who clears up around the area, but of course the last thing they want is bagloads of rubbish coming back to the store, so they also decide it is somebody else´s responsibility.

Don´t really know how to easily change this mindset. Perhaps one solution would be a deposit system, like there used to be on bottles. You pay 20p extra for the packaging, and that is refunded if you bring it back. Maybe the person buying the food will not bother over 20p, but somebody who needs the money might find it´s a way to earn a few quid.

There are theoretically fines for littering, but nobody seems to get fined apart from the occasional smoker or the famous one where somebody was fined for dropping a tenner. So if the stick approach is not working, maybe the carrot approach would give better results.

And I thought "The old see dog", was boring.

ShallowRemarks wrote:

romantic wrote:
Litter is an issue all over this country. I used to think it was because there weren´t enough bins, but I´ve seen people drop litter right next to a bin. I´ve occasionally asked people to pick it up and get met with abuse. No idea why people just drop their rubbish, but they do. Not just youngsters, either.

I think their mentality is that somebody else will come and clear it up.

Old see dog is sort of right in a way, but fast food places such as Macdonalds do have to accept that their packaging is more likely to be dropped. It would be good PR for them to employ somebody who clears up around the area, but of course the last thing they want is bagloads of rubbish coming back to the store, so they also decide it is somebody else´s responsibility.

Don´t really know how to easily change this mindset. Perhaps one solution would be a deposit system, like there used to be on bottles. You pay 20p extra for the packaging, and that is refunded if you bring it back. Maybe the person buying the food will not bother over 20p, but somebody who needs the money might find it´s a way to earn a few quid.

There are theoretically fines for littering, but nobody seems to get fined apart from the occasional smoker or the famous one where somebody was fined for dropping a tenner. So if the stick approach is not working, maybe the carrot approach would give better results.

And I thought "The old see dog", was boring.

That´s a very constructive addition to the thread! Do you actually have a view on this issue or it a day for a bit of mild trolling?

ShallowRemarks wrote:

The old see dog wrote:
I think my point was missed earlier. When someone purchases goods from a store, fast food outlet or supermarket it comes with a wrapper weather it be paper, tin or plastic. once you have paid for it it`s yours the goods and packaging and when you have unpacked the goods you recycle the packaging be it at home or in the bins provided, you cant expect the suppliers to go around the country picking up their packaging or for that matter residents. If that were to happen then the idiot litter droppers would increase a thousand fold or more because they know that someone else will clear up after them. It`s a bit like the few irresponsible dog owners, they feed little Fido then take him out for walkies they then let little Fido off the lead and off he goes to take a dump then runs back to master who makes out that he did not see and thinks to him self the dog food manufacturer made little Fido want a dump so they or the residents can clean it up because it`s not mine or little Fido's. Well that said I`m going to have some beans on toast now and throw the tin out into the road, it`s a Heinzs tin so they can come and pick it up, it`s not mine.

Your point wasn't missed earlier and it was a very good point, just bloody boring and nobody wanted to know.

Bloody boring is it well thats the trouble with people who think like that and dont want to know and dont care. Thats why Colchester and other towns look like land fill sites because "People dont want to know" and it seems you included. Let us know where you live and then everyone can dump their rubbish in your garden or is it nice and tidy because you dump your rubbish in the streets ?

petergalileo, jollychipfrier have you both lost the plot ? Never mind just keep taking the pills and you might, just might, get over it !

greenbroker wrote:

crazy comments wrote:
That means the council will need more staff to clear the litter left behind.

It appears McDonald's only clear up their rubbish on their premises. They and the Council forget about the rubbish lining the hedgerows along Cowdray Avenue.

While I don't and won't frequent McDonald's, one thing they do that is worth praise is to employ litter pickers and I've seen them going around the Riverside pathways around Leisure World recovering litter. I also frequently cycle along Cowdray Ave and can't say I've seen much evidence of discarded McDonald's packaging - unlike the detritus you might encounter down Queen St and St Botolph's Circus & Priory.

The old see dog wrote:
petergalileo, jollychipfrier have you both lost the plot ? Never mind just keep taking the pills and you might, just might, get over it !

lol

I have seen them litter picking round the leisure center

Outrageous! How dare a massive successful employer adapt within the confines of their existing license to meet a demand that is obviously apparent.

Scoundrels!

I for one will be boycotting food until such time as this awful situation has been resolved.