Joy as outline plans for 75 Burnham homes turned down

Joy as outline plans for 75 Burnham homes turned down

John Wilson, of Pippins Road, spoke on behalf of residents.

First published in Local News

Residents have been victorious in their battle to see outline plans for 75 homes turned down.

At a rowdy planning committee meeting on Monday, councillors refused a proposal for new homes on land south of Marsh Road, Burnham, on the grounds of inadequate access.

Following comments in favour by the developer’s agent, members of the public disrupted discussions to the point that chairman Ron Pratt threatened to hold talks in private.

Mr Pratt told residents “the heckling won’t help”.

 

See today's MBS for the full story.

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9:53am Thu 14 Aug 14

DontForgetToBreathe says...

Alternative headline...

"Joy as 75 families forced to pay inflated rent to greedy landlords and local kids destined never to own a home because existing homeowners don't want their view spoilt"
Alternative headline... "Joy as 75 families forced to pay inflated rent to greedy landlords and local kids destined never to own a home because existing homeowners don't want their view spoilt" DontForgetToBreathe
  • Score: 6

2:21pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Hawthorne says...

"I got here first...I therefore own the views around my house and I will fight any attempt to allow other people the use of my views"
"I got here first...I therefore own the views around my house and I will fight any attempt to allow other people the use of my views" Hawthorne
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Angry Andy says...

@Hawthorne & DFTB

Burnham has already been allocated 450 new homes in the Local Development plan (an approx. 10% increase in the size of the town).
These houses would have been on top of that and the access was deemed very poor and potentially unsafe, on top of this MDC have determined that the towns primary schools can't cope with more than 450 new homes.
Perhaps next time you struggle to get a Doctors appointment or are moaning about the roads in to Burnham or finding a pre-school place for your child you will see the other side of the story.
And maybe if you owned a house with a nice view and a quiet street and someone wanted to block your view and double the traffic in you're street and take £30k off the value of your house you might be a little miffed!.
@Hawthorne & DFTB Burnham has already been allocated 450 new homes in the Local Development plan (an approx. 10% increase in the size of the town). These houses would have been on top of that and the access was deemed very poor and potentially unsafe, on top of this MDC have determined that the towns primary schools can't cope with more than 450 new homes. Perhaps next time you struggle to get a Doctors appointment or are moaning about the roads in to Burnham or finding a pre-school place for your child you will see the other side of the story. And maybe if you owned a house with a nice view and a quiet street and someone wanted to block your view and double the traffic in you're street and take £30k off the value of your house you might be a little miffed!. Angry Andy
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9:24am Fri 15 Aug 14

Hawthorne says...

Angry Andy wrote:
@Hawthorne & DFTB

Burnham has already been allocated 450 new homes in the Local Development plan (an approx. 10% increase in the size of the town).
These houses would have been on top of that and the access was deemed very poor and potentially unsafe, on top of this MDC have determined that the towns primary schools can't cope with more than 450 new homes.
Perhaps next time you struggle to get a Doctors appointment or are moaning about the roads in to Burnham or finding a pre-school place for your child you will see the other side of the story.
And maybe if you owned a house with a nice view and a quiet street and someone wanted to block your view and double the traffic in you're street and take £30k off the value of your house you might be a little miffed!.
When I moved into my home I bought it as it is, with the views it has and the local amenities as they are. At no point did I assume that the price I paid included the right to pevent anyone else moving into the area, nor did I assume that ongoing development in the area would freeze for my benefit. The price of my house did not include the exclusive right to a view...that's just estate agents twaddle. It's not my view, and I'm sure that my house when originally built probably blocked someone else's view somewhere. There have been subsequent developments witin sight of my windows which I had no grounds to object to, so I didn't make up a load of synthesied concern about access roads, the affect of the great-crested newt or any other tactic that NIMBYs use to mask their blatant self-interest.
[quote][p][bold]Angry Andy[/bold] wrote: @Hawthorne & DFTB Burnham has already been allocated 450 new homes in the Local Development plan (an approx. 10% increase in the size of the town). These houses would have been on top of that and the access was deemed very poor and potentially unsafe, on top of this MDC have determined that the towns primary schools can't cope with more than 450 new homes. Perhaps next time you struggle to get a Doctors appointment or are moaning about the roads in to Burnham or finding a pre-school place for your child you will see the other side of the story. And maybe if you owned a house with a nice view and a quiet street and someone wanted to block your view and double the traffic in you're street and take £30k off the value of your house you might be a little miffed!.[/p][/quote]When I moved into my home I bought it as it is, with the views it has and the local amenities as they are. At no point did I assume that the price I paid included the right to pevent anyone else moving into the area, nor did I assume that ongoing development in the area would freeze for my benefit. The price of my house did not include the exclusive right to a view...that's just estate agents twaddle. It's not my view, and I'm sure that my house when originally built probably blocked someone else's view somewhere. There have been subsequent developments witin sight of my windows which I had no grounds to object to, so I didn't make up a load of synthesied concern about access roads, the affect of the great-crested newt or any other tactic that NIMBYs use to mask their blatant self-interest. Hawthorne
  • Score: 2

1:29pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Dengie D says...

Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.
Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this. Dengie D
  • Score: 0

3:10pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Hawthorne says...

Dengie D wrote:
Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.
Nope...I can see right across the river. There's no resentment in my comments and I note that there's no sensible rebuttal in yours. This country is heading for a housing bubble burst on a national level, and on a local level the lack of affordable housing will kill rural communities stone dead.
[quote][p][bold]Dengie D[/bold] wrote: Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.[/p][/quote]Nope...I can see right across the river. There's no resentment in my comments and I note that there's no sensible rebuttal in yours. This country is heading for a housing bubble burst on a national level, and on a local level the lack of affordable housing will kill rural communities stone dead. Hawthorne
  • Score: 2

5:02pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Angry Andy says...

@hawthorne

Fear not as I pointed out (and you completely ignored) burnham is already scheduled to get 450 new homes (on sites deemed more suitable for development) by maldon district council planning department. Personally I think think this is too many houses for a town which is literally the end of the road , obviously our opinions differ but its pretty clear you have little idea of the background to this story!
@hawthorne Fear not as I pointed out (and you completely ignored) burnham is already scheduled to get 450 new homes (on sites deemed more suitable for development) by maldon district council planning department. Personally I think think this is too many houses for a town which is literally the end of the road , obviously our opinions differ but its pretty clear you have little idea of the background to this story! Angry Andy
  • Score: -1

4:39pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Bluesue says...

Dengie D wrote:
Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.
And where are the 75 families who want to buy these homes going to work to pay for them? Don't imagine for one minute local people will buy these houses as they will get snapped up by greedy prospectors out to make a fast buck and again let them out. Many private landlords bought houses before the bust in 2009 , and have been unable to sell them until now. However, thankfully these people have been able to get a mortgage to put a roof over the heads of people who can't, for whatever reason.
[quote][p][bold]Dengie D[/bold] wrote: Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.[/p][/quote]And where are the 75 families who want to buy these homes going to work to pay for them? Don't imagine for one minute local people will buy these houses as they will get snapped up by greedy prospectors out to make a fast buck and again let them out. Many private landlords bought houses before the bust in 2009 , and have been unable to sell them until now. However, thankfully these people have been able to get a mortgage to put a roof over the heads of people who can't, for whatever reason. Bluesue
  • Score: -1

11:20am Sun 17 Aug 14

Hawthorne says...

Angry Andy wrote:
@hawthorne

Fear not as I pointed out (and you completely ignored) burnham is already scheduled to get 450 new homes (on sites deemed more suitable for development) by maldon district council planning department. Personally I think think this is too many houses for a town which is literally the end of the road , obviously our opinions differ but its pretty clear you have little idea of the background to this story!
No, I didn't miss the 450 new homes and it's a fair point and a legitimate concern. Unfortunately, whilst Burnham is literally at the end of the road, it's also got a railway station, and if your town benefits from that, it's also got the downside of putting you squarely in the box for further expansion. Maldon, for example, will also have to fight a similar application, and the lack of a railway puts them in a 'better' position. We need new homes, and lots of them. People are going to have to get used to it.
[quote][p][bold]Angry Andy[/bold] wrote: @hawthorne Fear not as I pointed out (and you completely ignored) burnham is already scheduled to get 450 new homes (on sites deemed more suitable for development) by maldon district council planning department. Personally I think think this is too many houses for a town which is literally the end of the road , obviously our opinions differ but its pretty clear you have little idea of the background to this story![/p][/quote]No, I didn't miss the 450 new homes and it's a fair point and a legitimate concern. Unfortunately, whilst Burnham is literally at the end of the road, it's also got a railway station, and if your town benefits from that, it's also got the downside of putting you squarely in the box for further expansion. Maldon, for example, will also have to fight a similar application, and the lack of a railway puts them in a 'better' position. We need new homes, and lots of them. People are going to have to get used to it. Hawthorne
  • Score: 2

11:40am Mon 18 Aug 14

DontForgetToBreathe says...

Dengie D wrote:
Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.
LOL.

I have lived in Bristol, Southampton, Ipswich, Southall, Brixton, New Cross, Plaistow and now Burnham. In none of those places have I had a "view" and have always been overlooked. This has never been a problem as I genuinely like people and think helping them is a better thing to do than selfishly protect my own vested interests. I do try to get on with everyone no matter their beliefs etc. but the blatant Nimbyism is really starting to grate. A tipping point will come when those without homes start to act out of desperation and I really wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that. Que sera
[quote][p][bold]Dengie D[/bold] wrote: Hawthorne and DFTB’s resentment probably lies with the fact that they are both unhappy victims of modern urban sprawl in that they have to endure being overlooked day to day on a cramped new housing estate with poor views all round. If they can’t have a nice aspect why should anyone else. Well done to everyone that protected our countryside and fought against this.[/p][/quote]LOL. I have lived in Bristol, Southampton, Ipswich, Southall, Brixton, New Cross, Plaistow and now Burnham. In none of those places have I had a "view" and have always been overlooked. This has never been a problem as I genuinely like people and think helping them is a better thing to do than selfishly protect my own vested interests. I do try to get on with everyone no matter their beliefs etc. but the blatant Nimbyism is really starting to grate. A tipping point will come when those without homes start to act out of desperation and I really wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that. Que sera DontForgetToBreathe
  • Score: 2

3:31pm Wed 27 Aug 14

TerryWoolnough says...

I think we've already reached the tipping point tbh...
I think we've already reached the tipping point tbh... TerryWoolnough
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